Von der Tann, upgunned, Germany Battlecruiser laid down 1914 (Engine 1907)
Displacement:
21,604 t light; 22,911 t standard; 25,200 t normal; 27,032 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
562.66 ft / 562.66 ft x 87.27 ft (Bulges 92.52 ft) x 30.18 ft (normal load)
171.50 m / 171.50 m x 26.60 m (Bulges 28.20 m) x 9.20 m
Armament:
4 - 16.93" / 430 mm guns (2x2 guns), 2,425.91lbs / 1,100.37kg shells, 1914 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 16.93" / 430 mm guns in single mounts, 2,425.91lbs / 1,100.37kg shells, 1914 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships
10 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1914 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
Weight of broadside 15,585 lbs / 7,069 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 90
4 - 17.7" / 450 mm above water torpedoes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9.84" / 250 mm 351.05 ft / 107.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 8.86" / 225 mm 351.05 ft / 107.00 m 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
0.98" / 25 mm 351.05 ft / 107.00 m 30.18 ft / 9.20 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.06" / 230 mm 3.54" / 90 mm 9.06" / 230 mm
2nd: 9.06" / 230 mm 3.54" / 90 mm 9.06" / 230 mm
3rd: 5.91" / 150 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 9.84" / 250 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 67,160 shp / 50,102 Kw = 25.50 kts
Range 4,400nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,121 tons (100% coal)
Complement:
999 - 1,300
Cost:
£3.793 million / $15.172 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,948 tons, 7.7 %
Armour: 5,199 tons, 20.6 %
- Belts: 1,497 tons, 5.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 386 tons, 1.5 %
- Armament: 1,872 tons, 7.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1,261 tons, 5.0 %
- Conning Tower: 182 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 4,198 tons, 16.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,260 tons, 40.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,596 tons, 14.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19,546 lbs / 8,866 Kg = 8.1 x 16.9 " / 430 mm shells or 2.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
Roll period: 16.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak, raised quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.561
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.08 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.72 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -2.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.89 ft / 8.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 27.89 ft / 8.50 m
- Mid (35 %): 27.89 ft / 8.50 m (18.04 ft / 5.50 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.04 ft / 5.50 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m before break)
- Stern: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Average freeboard: 21.08 ft / 6.43 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 144.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.8 %
Waterplane Area: 34,635 Square feet or 3,218 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 86 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 197 lbs/sq ft or 964 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 2.07
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
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Monday, January 01, 2007
My design for upgunning the Von der Tann
I thought that upgunning the Von der Tann would be challenging. The age of the ship and layout would be pretty restrictive. I went with two twin 17in turrets and two single 17in turrets, the last in echelon. I added bulges and raised the displacement considerably. I did not increase the protection, although the ship would be greatly helped by doing so. The rebuilt ship now has a speed of 26 knots and a main armament of 6-17in guns. This is the Springsharp report:
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